Krishna Seva

[palna]

Jai Shree Krishna Pyara vaishnavs
I am sure most of you know that i am a member of Pushtidasji's Friday satsangs and as I have attended more satstangs my curiosity and love for Thakorji has grown. Thus I want to adopt the teachings of Pushtimarg and follow it as best I can. Pushtimarg is the path of grace fundamentally based on love however with it one should have etiquette. So that leads me to question. I don’t actually know the real reason for not eating onions and garlic?? Is it just because Thakorji dislikes the taste and smell?? Or is there more to it?? What other foods are we not supposed to eat?? Please don’t think I am complaining because the truth of the matter is the closer i feel to Thakorji the easier the idea of giving up unessential foods like garlic and onion become. I know Krishna seva has many members who i am sure have masses of knowledge, please vaishnavs share your knowledge, be active readers and Satsang Tibari can be like our lil party
JAI SHREE KRISHNA!!!!
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Prem Bandhan Ajab Gajab, Brahmaganth sami aa ganth, na tutai na chutai

Palna na Koti Koti Jai Shree Krishna

[Hoshil]

Palnaji JSK,

Other than making your breath smell, I think the real reason for not eating garlic and onion is because they stimulate different feelings. Please someone correct me if I am wrong but these foods make one more angry and lustful.

I also heard from a lovely Vaishnav that we can't eat water mellons too. Not sure why though.
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Jai Shree Krishna

[manish]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Pushtidasji will come with exact answer. but this website though from a buddisht perspective is similar to Vaishnav thoughts: http://www.greengourmet.com.au/garlic_onion.htm

also to that list we can add mushrooms safely, the prime reason being that they are considered Tamsi/Rajsi food, i.e. increasing the mode of ignorace/passion.

Jai Shri Krishna

Manish Ashar

[palna]

Jai Shree Krishna,
Cheers Manishji, thanks Hoshilji. I do remember being told onions give off certain hormones in the body... but would love it if some one could explain furhter..... Phewwwww i never did like mushrooms What other foods do vaishnavs not eat??
JAI SHREE KRISHNA!!!
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Prem Bandhan Ajab Gajab, Brahmaganth sami aa ganth, na tutai na chutai

Palna na Koti Koti Jai Shree Krishna

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Most important reason is that those are Tamasi Vegetables.
One should eat more of Sattvik Goon.

Tamsi will take us away from our Shri Thakurji plus bad (Foul) smell. So one should go to Thakurji with good clean mouth and body also (not smelling of perspiration etc) must be clean.
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[gopal]

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

Regarding this question of onion, garlic, etc.
Pujya Goswami ShriVitthalraiji Bavashri (Shrimad Gokul, Baroda) Aatmaj of Chaturthpeethadhishwar Pujyacharan Gurudev Goswami ShriDevkinandanacharyashri - ShriSureshbavashri (Shrimad Gokul) had placed the vachnamruts on the below link. Vaishnavas do have a look to it, and try to understand what aapshri had said.

http://groups.msn.com/JayJayShriGokulesh/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=309&LastModified=4675552092395779643
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
Baroda

[jagdish]

Jai Shri Krishna,

I think the link has changed as i could not access it. However, the one related was ...

http://groups.msn.com/JayJayShriGokulesh/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=304
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Best Wishes
Jagdish

[palna]

Jai Shree Krishna,
Thank you Vaishnavs for so many quick responses, i was hoping someone could elaborate on Tamasi Vegetables??? What other foods are we not suposed to eat? Which fruits? Other veg? and why?? Many thanks in advance !!!
JAI SHREE KRISHNA!!!!
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Prem Bandhan Ajab Gajab, Brahmaganth sami aa ganth, na tutai na chutai

Palna na Koti Koti Jai Shree Krishna

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri KRishna,

Other Tamasi foods are foll

In Vegetables Carrots, Tomatoes etc
In fruits like Water Melon etc.
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[gopal]

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

Regarding this question of onion, garlic, etc.
Pujya Goswami ShriVitthalraiji Bavashri (Shrimad Gokul, Baroda) Aatmaj of Chaturthpeethadhishwar Pujyacharan Gurudev Goswami ShriDevkinandanacharyashri - ShriSureshbavashri (Shrimad Gokul) had placed the vachnamruts on the below link. Vaishnavas do have a look to it, and try to understand what aapshri had said.

http://groups.msn.com/JayJayShriGokulesh/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=309&LastModified=4675552092395779643
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
Baroda

[jagdish]

Jai Shri Krishna,
Gopal bhai,
Thank You for these vachnamruts.

one more request.... would you be able tohelp us translate these into english for us also ?
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Best Wishes
Jagdish

[palna]

Jai Shree Krishna
Yes, please Gopalji, i can not read gujerati or sanskrit so please, it would be a great help if your could translate...Many thanks
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Prem Bandhan Ajab Gajab, Brahmaganth sami aa ganth, na tutai na chutai

Palna na Koti Koti Jai Shree Krishna

[Anjana Modi]

Jai Shree Krishna

The link which Gopalbhai has mentioned, it only describes much of the Vedic sightation and explains why one does not eat tamasi food according to Vedic systems.

Shree Mahrajshree also goes on to say that in Pushtimarga we have no solid and valid reason why we do not eat Onions and Garlick. Although Aapshree does describe in one sentence, a quote from Shree Mahaprabhuji, that these foods are tamas. We do not have a proper authorative summary on why we are not supposed to eat these Tamsi food except the vedic explanation.

I remember an incident about Mahaprabhuji where he removed Onions from his thali and since then no one in Pushtimarg ate the onion?

Does anyone recall this prasang?
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Sadainiya kamalpad abhilasi
Anju

[gopal]

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

Check this link also

http://groups.msn.com/JayJayShriGokulesh/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=312&lc=1033

Pujya ShriVitthalraiji Bavashri had very verbally tried to explain the things of objecting the things. Read this link also. So that the things get more clear. Do read it carefully.
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
Baroda

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri KRishna,

On further investigation I found this

There are many other things mentioned in Shiva Purana but who follows
them? For example, in the Shiva Purana the Supreme Lord says:

dvAparAdau yuge bhUtvA
kalayA mAnuSAadiSu
svAgamaiH kalpitais tvaM ca
janAn mad-vimukhAn kuru

"In the beginning of the dvapara-yuga, directed by My orders, many
sages will bewilder the people in general by mayavadi philosophy."

Still these people are being bewildered by the influence of maya.
Actually, they calculate Ekadasi tithi based on the movement of sun
while Vaishanavas calculate based on the movement of moon.
Regarding onion and garlic, as per the story below (the scriptural
source is not known) onion and garlic came from the dead body of a
murdered cow and therefore they are considered like eating meat. They
break the non-vegetarian principle from the shastric point of view.
Strict vegetarians don't eat onion nor garlic. Since meat is tamasic,
onions and garlic are also tamasic and rajasic food. They may have
some medicinal value like even wine is used in medicines sometimes.

Thus they are taboo for followers of Vedic culture.

"Once, in Satya Yuga the rishis were performing gomedha and asvamedha
sacrifices for the welfare of the whole universe. A cow or a horse
would be cut into pieces and placed in the fire. Afterwards the rishis
would utter mantras and the same animal would come alive in a
beautiful young body.

One time the rishi who was about to perform a gomedha sacrifice, his
wife was pregnant. She had a very strong desire to eat and she had
heard that if, during pregnancy one has a desire to eat and does not
fullfill this, then the baby that will be born will always have saliva
coming from its mouth. Very strange, she desired strongly to eat meat,
thus she decided to keep one piece of meat of the cow's body that was
offered in sacrifice. She hid it and was making a plan to eat it very
soon. At that time the rishi was finishing the sacrifice and uttered
all the mantras for the new young cow to come to life. However when he
saw the new cow, he noticed that there was a little part missing from
her left side. He went into meditation and realized that his wife had
taken away a piece of meat during the sacrifice. Now his wife also
understood what happened and quickly threw the meat far away.
Due to the effect of the mantras uttered by the rishi there was now
life in this piece of meat. Then the blood of this meat became red
lentils, the bones became garlic and the meat became onions. Thus
these foods are never taken by any Vaishnava situated in the mode of
goodness as Vaishnavas should be because it is not considered by us as
offerable due to its association as a non-vegetarian food. Plus it is
in the mode of ignorance."
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----