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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri Vallabh. Thanks for the kind response Jagdishji. I hope that everyone will be prepared to answer a few more Qsts of mine Wink Very Happy. including u too. As satsang will be enjoyed much more when more vaishnavas will join....... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri krushna Vallabhi vaishnavas, Where are u all hidden????.... I m surprised to see 191 registered users!!!!.... I m sure someone can ans. my previous Qst. pls pls pls tell do navnitpriyaji and balkrushnaji give darshan in the same swarroop, I mean holding butter in one hand....I m a begineer in pushtimarg.....so dont know many things n have to learn a lot much more from all of u..... please help......
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri Vallabh..... I tried to find out upto some extent, n heres what I came to know.... Presently swaroop of Balkrushnaji is in KHERALU (gujarat). But heres something emotional... Once balkrishnaji was having bhog of milk pudding, but bcoz it was very hot, lalan got burnt bcoz of that and those marks r still visible on the various shri aang. N shri navnitpriyaji(in nathdwara) is a 6 month baby with fair complexion(bcoz to complete shri swaminijis manorath). But I m not sure about manorat.Is it correct?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

Krutiji, that is very nice information, thank you for sharing.

Shri Bal Krishnaji is said to be in Surat/Gujarat - His swaroop is that of a balak who crawls on his hands and knees (so a couple of years older than Shri Navneetpriyaji)

He is can be seen to be crawling on his knees with makhan in one hand at a little distance from the face and a ladoo is pressed under the other hand (as he has some teeth, he can bite on the ladoo) (or a ladoo in one hand with the other hand resting on the floor)

Shri Navneetpriyaji is in Nathdwara and He is (as you said) a baby who needs to be carried, so in sitting position, His leg is usually seen as folded behind Him (unlike Shri Bal Krishnaji)

He holds the butter ball (makhan) close to his face (unlike Shri Bal Krishnaji)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri Vitthal, Thanks Jagdishji for the explanation. But I m a bit confused. plz can u explain.... As u said, Balkrushnaji is seen crawling on knees and shri navnitpriyaji is seen with one shri charan folded behind him.... does this mean both swaroops r in the same position ( in the terms of shri charan ) I mean in sitting position. Please can u clear this thing..... By the way I liked what u said that balkrishnaji has few teeth so can chew ladoo... it makes imagination strong.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

Krutiji, sorry for the confusion, what i meant was that although both swaroops are generally in sitting position however, Shri BalKrishnaji is said to be the swaroop who can walk on hands and knees (crawl).

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This one is generally the idea behind how Shri Bal Krishnaji would be crawling on his knees...



This could be seen as Shri Navneetpriyaji's, as this is the general pose for Him. Although in this case it is displayed for Shri Bal Krishnaji and his hand is at a distance


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri Vitthal,...... Thank u very much Jagdishji for the clarification and the pics are just mindblowing.... Really thanks.... Actually we have lalan seva n when I asked mom whether we have balkrushnajis swaroop or of navnitpriyajis.. n she said its balkrushnaji but wasent sure.... she told that it dosent matter much, as both r bal swaroops, but bhaav and prem is more imp..... So I just wanted to know about both the swaroops... n thanks to u as now I can perform seva more affectionately.....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

Krutiji, glad to know you found the clarification useful.

Although in appearance both swaroops may look the same, their bhavatmak swaroops are different according to their lila bhav, so if Shri Balkrishna is in our home, His seva would be according to that bhav, as per our gurudev's agya
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jai jai shri gokulesh

From where we can read the Nikung lila

can we start discussing here
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna/Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,

shri gokulnathji's pustaks on rahasya/nikunj bhavna

shri hariraiji's pads on bal lila also contain this information

it would be nice to start a separate discussion on these
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shree Krishna

The first thing said in pushti marg is Krishna seva.
If because of circumstances seva is not possible what to do next
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna/Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,

As per Shri Mahaprabhuji's instructions one should do seva.

it depends on what the circumstances are, but in our marg everything has been made very easy and practical.

if we can't do swaroop seva, we can do chitraji seva, or offer bhog etc to chitraji or shrimad bhagvatam, etc. or one can do naam seva (ashtakshar, panchakshar, etc)

- this accepts the first condition of offering everything before accepting it in our personal use. - Sarva Vastu Samarpanam.

- in any case the first and final requirement is to do seva as per your gurudev's agya - Seva Krutir Guruor Agya.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shree Krishna Jagdish Bhai,

So we consider Naam seva as a kind of seva like aastakshar.

Thanks for quick reply always.
Kindly share some thing which are you reading now a days.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna/Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,

Yes quite right, in many cases Shri Mahaprabhuji/Shri Gusaiji only gave naam seva - to recite ashtakashar or in written form, to recite and to offer bhog etc to ashtakshar and accept prasad etc.

There is no difference between bhagvad naam and his form - hence shrimad bhagvatam is thakorji vaang may swaroop (swaroop made from words) as there are numerous names of thakorji describing all his leelas, etc.

Thank you for the kind prompt. With bhagvad krupa i am hoping to post some more hasya prasangs and others.. please read the discussion under "back to basics", i have posted something there.
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