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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Artiji, even I would not agree with the answer given by you as please consider foll
When ever vaishnav does seva, first of all his motto should be Tat- Sukh as his main reason is to please GOD.
By naam mantra you are just reciting God's name that we are under his shelter.
End minute anything can happen but will wait for other answers and then I will reveal what is written in the pustak these are rare vachnamruts of our Vallabhkul Balaks. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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jai shri krishna
As by hindu scripture(Bhagwat),whatever is the person doing/thinking at the last moment of his/her life would get likewise in next birth or as "karm phal".Examle is Bharat and Ajamil.
And the phal of seva is prem,asakti and vyasan(seva phalam).
so in the other word phal of seva is only seva untill you get the state of vyasan for shri thakurji.
by thinking more i got this answer..........
waitng for answer and another question. _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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unnati CEO
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 423 Location: Mumbai India
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh,
Gr8 going Vasantji and Jagdishji. Aartiji really sorry for late reply....
In Karma marg one can make happy to god by doing as per said in scripure i.e Vidhi(Do's) and Nished(Don't). Through Gyan Marg as per the intrest of the soul he comes to know wheather it is the true goal or not. And Upasana Marg is a path of worship of the desired deties through Jap, mantra etc. But all this results to attain Akshar Bhrama and not the communion with god. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Artiji, It is very nicely discussed in the pustak and clarified that if one has taken Naam Mantra (only) then maybe he was not the adhikari for seva or there may be other reasons too. So in this case since he remembered God in the end he will be born again and in his next life he will definitely progress one step further by taking birth in vaishnav family and take Brahmasamband and start doing seva in order to realize God.
Once you have taken Brahmasamband and started the seva marg then in the end even if one forget's God (which is rare) due to unknown reasons or due to pain but to this vaishnav Shri Thakurji remembers him as the seva was performed and Shri Yamunaji also helps and one does not go to narak at all but is well taken care of. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Once the vaishnavs questioned that there are so many people helping in the temple then which seva is the best or gets more credit?
Like doing paan seva (making paan) or phool mala seva ? cooking, taking care of cows ? shingar or vastra seva (stitching clothes), washing utensils doing buari (cleaning) etc etc
Please mention by order and why? _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: |
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jai shri krishna
thanks vasantji for the answer.
so the conclusion is that if once you have taken the path of seva,either the naam seva or the swaroop seva end result will be always better.........wow.
is there something similar written in antah-karan-prabodh(sodas granth)??????????
very difficult question????????
I think the first priorty would be cow seva as cows are dearest to shri thakurji. _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: |
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jai shree krishna
vaishnavas plz. reply on the que. of vasantji _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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unnati CEO
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 423 Location: Mumbai India
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Vasantji, i think all seva's mentioned are equally important... this is my personal view.. plz through some light on it.... _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Sital CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Wow, vaishnavs this is lovely, Aartiji really enjoying your question and everyone’s replies. Can I join please?
I agree with Unnatiji that all seva is equally important, Shree Dwarkeshbava at His recent vachnamrut in London mentioned that vaishnav should to whatever seva they are given, and there is no high or low seva.
However when in seva we should look at the tatsukh of others, if they want to do a certain seva, like say fill jariji at bethakji one should let them go in front and just touch the last person with your hand, that’s the highest seva, looking at the sukh of Hari, Guru and vaishnav and acting accordingly.
Vasantji, eagerly waiting for your answer
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna, Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh
What seva you do is up to your expertise. Like if you can do malas nicely then do that seva and not cooking. Any seva to your liking is good but at the same time the maximum credit is given to the seva done with nishtha, bhav, sneh, tat-sukh, and nishkaam bhav.
Without expectation of any favors or even money.
Anyone with a new question or should I put one more? _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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jai shri krishna
Sitalji any vaishnav can join. "ye to hamara saubhagya hai ki humare satsang me ek aur vaishnav jud gaya.........bus ye silsila yu hi chalta rahe."
I am reading "sikshapatra nu aachman" by Ramesh bhai Parikh. I read very interesting prasang that i want to share. I will write in gujrati.
Hume je thakurji ni seva karo cho ena chaar roop che.1)swaroopatmak 2)bhavatmak 3)rasatmak 4) kalatmak.
1)swaroopatmak- hume je thakur ne purn purusottam mani ne seva karo cho, ye swaroopatmak che.
2)bhawatmak- Hume jyare thakur ni lilao nu gurgan karo cho tyare thakur hamare khola(lap) ma besi na gurgan sunto rahe che. etle thakur na lila gungan karte samay hilwu na joiye.ensi thakur ne taklif thaye che.
3)rasatmak- hume je bhi samagri thakur ne aragavo cho thakur tema ne ras no aanad le che. Hume je shiro, puri, bhaat-bhaat ni rasoi aragao cho thakur te nathi leto tema besu humaro prem ras no paan kare che.
Ek vaishnav hata, Gusaiji na sevak,south ma raheta hata, gana garib hata.gopri jevu ghar ma thakurji ni seva hati. garmi(summer) khub padti hati lekin thakur ji ne kai shital aarogava layak hatu nai. Rasta ma gya, ek sundar gulab nu phool joyu, ghar na malik si poochi ne te phool layi aaya.......thodu jal ma te gulab nakhi ne thakur ji ne aarogavyu.thakur ne vinti kari ke aa gujab jal aarogo.
thakur jayi ne Gusaiji ne kahyu,aaje tamhara ek south na vaishnav mane ghanu sundar gulab jal aarogayu che etlu sundar to tamhare tya bhi nathi.
Shri Gusaiji tyare patra likhi ne poocho ke gulabjal kevi rite banayu. vaishnav a vadi katha likhi aapi.
"ye che prem ras jeno thakur paan kare che"
4) kalatmak roop
this is question for vaishnav.what is the kalatmak roop of shri thakurji????????????? _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Sital CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna,
Loving the translation Aartiji, please carry on, I have always wanted to read Rameshbhai Parikh's literature but my gujerati reading is very weak. So through your translation my manorath is being fulfilled, Thakorji is really graceful
Please let us know the Kalatmak roop of Shri Thakorji, I really don't have a clue
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Jai shri krishna
thakur no kalatmak swaroop shu che?????????
hume je thakur ji ne morli dharao cho, te morli thakur humne sunave..........hume je samagri aarogao che te thakur humne humare samne aarogi ne dekhare e thaku no kalatmak roop che.
Thakurji ne aa kalatmak roop no darshan karwa maate hume thakurji si mitho jhagro bhi kari sako cho.
che na sundar
I want to know about nidhi swaroop in detail???????? what is their origin etc. there specification of swaroop etc. and katha related to that.....
vasantji, jagdishji, unnatiji, shitalji and all vaishnavs plz. share your knowlage........ _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Jia Shri Krishna,
I will only describe in short of what I know as described by Goswami Manmathrai
There are 63 NIDHI SWAROOPS which are sevya by Shri MAHAPRABHUJI himself... let me repeat there are 63 swaroops which are sevya by shri MAHAPRABHUJI himself... but yes these NINE nidhi swaroops are the MUKHYA swaroop which were distributed to the 7 Balaks at SHRIKUND.
Please name those nine ? _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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jai shri krishna
where are the all 63 Nidhi swaroop now??????????
Nine nidhi swaroop
1)Srinathji 2)navnitpriyaji 3)Mathuradhishji 4)Dwarkadhishji 5)vitthalnathji 6)Gokulnathji 7)Gokulchandramaji 8)Madanmohanji 9)Balkrishnaji _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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